DP/Flex & Substitions

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DP/Flex & Substitions

Post by cvbarnett » Fri May 28, 2010 9:52 am

Can anyone explain the difference? We are in a tournament this weekend and can only bat 9 and have the option of using DP/Flex. How is this done in iscore on the ipad?
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Re: DP/Flex & Substitions

Post by CSThunderCoach » Fri May 28, 2010 9:59 am

There is another thread on this here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1494 along with a very good article that explains the Flex rule.

The DP/Flex is a complicated version of the DH in baseball.

Basically it allows you to have 9 on offense, 9 on defense, but 10 in the game.
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Re: DP/Flex & Substitions

Post by CSThunderCoach » Fri May 28, 2010 11:16 am

Here is some additional information from OhioTex from a similar post:
Republishing a couple external links on DP/Felx... for ease of re-finding..
(at a minimum, DP/Flex can be found in NCAA, NHFS, and ASA fastpitch softball)

Understanding the ASA/NFHS DP / Flex Rule -(thanks Thunder Coach) http://www.fastsports.com/tips/tip25/index.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

DP/Flex Strategies for Coaches (thanks UmpBryan) - http://www.nfhs.org/Workarea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=3843" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


FYI - Most Basic Definition..

Designated Player (DP)
The player who is initially listed on the lineup card in the team’s batting
order but not in the defensive lineup.

Flex Player
The player who is initially listed in the 10th spot on the lineup card may
play any defensive position and may only enter the game on offense in the
designated player’s batting position.
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Re: DP/Flex & Substitions

Post by cvbarnett » Fri May 28, 2010 11:21 am

Thanks but neither link works any other places I can look? Have you ever used DP/Flex with iscore? Is it fairly self explanatory? Is there some where in the tutorials that goes over this?
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Re: DP/Flex & Substitions

Post by OhioTex » Fri May 28, 2010 11:34 am

I just tried each link again... and they both work fine for me.

Using DP/Flex in iScore is not the hard part, the hard part is making sure you understand the rule, and know upfront who is deisgnated what. If you are the coach, or know his plan, not hard to set up the line up and then track in iScore.

iScore operates with the "score what you see model" so you just set the line up, and then check each defense player position each half inning and each batter that comes to the plate is correct number.. iScore handles the notation on the scorebook for you.
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Re: DP/Flex & Substitions

Post by CSThunderCoach » Fri May 28, 2010 11:36 am

I use it all the time (when we play ASA). Instead of selecting "Yes" for the batting prompt, use Flex or DP.
When setting up your lineup for the DP, list as "Out" for fielding and "DP" for batting.
The Flex player is assigned to a fielding position and "Flex" for batting. iScore knows to skip this position when on Offense.
Nothing in the tutorials that I could find. As indicated in other posts, umpires spend hours learning this rule, coaches spend years trying to figure out how to use it effectively.
You can accomplish the same thing just by listing the DP as a DH and selecting "No" for the Flex player for the Batting option. There are no special statistics that go along with the DP/Flex, so whatever works for you.
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Re: DP/Flex & Substitions

Post by cvbarnett » Fri May 28, 2010 12:29 pm

Thanks so much for your help! Fingers crossed i get it right this weekend.
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Re: DP/Flex & Substitions

Post by Bryan D Shepherd » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:59 am

The DP/Flex rule is the most confusing rule that the geniuses that write the rulebooks ever decided to write.
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Re: DP/Flex & Substitions

Post by OhioTex » Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:22 am

again, the hard part here is understanding the rule, not the key strokes in iScore.

here is a nice Powerpoint explanation i ran across, with a sample lineup cards and excercise at the end.
http://www.asasoftball.com/iowa/2010_DP ... #463,2,The" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; DP/FLEX RULE
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Re: DP/Flex & Substitions

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