Catching getting PO?

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Re: Catching getting PO?

Post by The Differencemaker » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:18 am

one other thing is a foul bunt on a third strike? Could not find a place to score that one either???
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Re: Catching getting PO?

Post by team mom » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:32 am

The Differencemaker wrote:So if a pitcher throws a ball over a catchers head and the batter swings at it anyway, or if a pitcher pitches a ball 4 ft. outside...why is iscore charging it as a pass ball to the catcher when he has no chance of catching it?
This should only be scored as a swinging strike. If there is a runner on base who advances due to the wild pitch, then you would score that separately.

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swinging strike.
Tap runner on first (or wherever) - What happened to runner, you press 2nd, safe, wild pitch.

Iscore will not assign passed ball or wild pitch until you tell it to. A passed ball or wild pitch with no one on base or no consequences does not need to be scored. You can add a note if you want, but typically it is not charged against the pitcher (WP) or catcher (PB) unless there is a runner advancement.
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Re: Catching getting PO?

Post by team mom » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:35 am

The Differencemaker wrote:Then how do you score a third strike tip that is caught by the catcher on iscore??? I do not see a place or call for that.
A third strike caught foul tip is scored as a swinging strike. There is no statistical difference due to the fact that it is a caught foul tip. You can add a note if you want to clarify it.
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Re: Catching getting PO?

Post by team mom » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:36 am

The Differencemaker wrote:one other thing is a foul bunt on a third strike? Could not find a place to score that one either???
I believe this is the same as the caught foul tip. You record it as a swinging strike for the out and can add a note that it was a bunt 3rd strike if you want. There is no statistical difference that is tracked because it was a bunt foul.
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Re: Catching getting PO?

Post by The Differencemaker » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:51 am

What I am talking about on the catcher being charged for a passed ball is when a runner on first advances to second and I score it as a wild pitch advances the batter. I scored it as a wild pitch because it is 4 foot outside and cannot be caught, or it was over the catchers head, so a wild pitch is scored but it still gives the catcher a passed ball. Can you tell me why? Then the same thing happens also if a batter swings on a third strike if it is over his head and the catchers head or it is too far outside to be caught. It is still chargining the catcher for a passed ball even though it is in reality a wild pitch and that is what I am scoring it as.
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Re: Catching getting PO?

Post by FTMSupport » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:55 am

A catcher does not get credit for a passed ball on a wild pitch. The catcher only gets credit for a passed ball if you select Passed Ball as the reason for a runner advancing a base. If you do an Options -> Export and tell us which game / player you are scoring as a wild pitch that is crediting a pass ball instead, we can take a look at your data. Email us at support@iscoresports.com with the information and your customer ID.
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Re: Catching getting PO?

Post by The Differencemaker » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:15 am

What the actual play was, the pitch threw a wild pitch. the batter swung, it was his third strike. It was a pitch in the dirt on the right side of the plate and the catcher managed to scoop it and ran the batter down and tagged him out. And even though he ran the batter down and tagged him out he was charged with a passed ball for a dropped third pitch?
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Re: Catching getting PO?

Post by FTMSupport » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:23 am

If you entered Dropped Third, then it is scored as a passed ball. A pitcher can not be charged with a wild pitch unless a runner advances a base. If you select the runner being safe at first, then Wild Pitch 3rd Strike is an option. But if the runner is out at first, then by definition, no Wild Pitch can be charged.
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Re: Catching getting PO?

Post by mprusak » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:50 am

The Differencemaker wrote:What the actual play was, the pitch threw a wild pitch. the batter swung, it was his third strike. It was a pitch in the dirt on the right side of the plate and the catcher managed to scoop it and ran the batter down and tagged him out. And even though he ran the batter down and tagged him out he was charged with a passed ball for a dropped third pitch?
If batter is retired, no one should be getting charged (PB or WP).
If batter reach base as a result of drop, then either the catcher (PB) or pitcher (WP) needs to be charged.

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Re: Catching getting PO?

Post by elcray » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:27 pm

All,

I just double checked what was mentioned about Wild Pitches getting charged as passed balls. He is absolutely correct. In a game on Saturday, there were 3 passed balls and 1 wild pitch. My catcher was charged with 4 passed balls in the stats. The play by play matches the 3 PB and 1 Wild so I know it was scored correctly.
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