Sac Bunt Error

bepeacock · Post by **bepeacock** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:14 pm

Watching the Rangers game tonight and in the 9th, Mitch Moreland bunted with a runner on 1st. It went to the pitcher, whose throw was off, pulling the first baseman off the bag. This is an error. The commentator said, "for those scoring at home, that is a sec bunt with an E1 allowing the batter to reach 1st.". How do I enter that? Don't see a way to say both sac bunt and error when he just gets to first.

Post by **danmcc** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:54 pm

I've never looked for it before but when I hit in play there is a Sac Bunt with Error button on the right side, second from bottom.

Post by **OhioTex** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:31 am

On an iPad, it is the second from bottom button in right column...(like dan said)...

But FYI on phone device, the sac bunt with error and sac fly with error button are on second page of in play buttons (access by "more..." button bottom right, on page 1)

P.s. Go rangers!

bepeacock · Post by **bepeacock** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:10 pm

Well I feel completely stupid now. Open your eyes, Peacock. gah! Thanks guys. :

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Post by **OhioTex** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:34 am

don't feel bad, it is an odd need and easily overlooked.. especially in the chaos of the moment, particularly on error plays

brian_oshea · Post by **brian_oshea** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:28 pm

This question brings up another question. An error for a batter reaching base counts as an at bat for him, he is 0-1. However a sac. bunt is not an official AB, he is 0-0. How does iScore, score the error on a sac. bunt or fly?

Post by **OhioTex** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:44 pm

On a sac bunt (or sac fly) iscore records a plate appearance but not an offical at bat.
Same with sac w/ error. , a plate apperence but not an official at bat..
Oddly (but correctly) it does not record it as a reach on error.

brian_oshea · Post by **brian_oshea** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:57 pm

Thanks!!! Was just wondering. It's nice to know the answer in advance of it happening.

Post by **FTMSupport** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:11 pm

It does not count as a Reach on Error because the batter is still credited with a Sacrifice, and if we gave both a Sacrifice + Reach on Error, it would skew statistics. In this case the "Sacrifice" is "worth more" than a Reach on Error. In order to have a Reach on Error, you need to be charged an At Bat as well or several calculated stats will not work out.

brian_oshea · Post by **brian_oshea** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:52 pm

I think that I would agree that your treatment of this play is correct. I agree that the sacrifice is better for the batter and he should thus receive the most favorable treatment, but let's hope it doesn't happen to often so I don't have to try and explain the treatment to the coach & parents.

Thanks to everyone for their help in answering this perplexing question.

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