In game editing

[titanbaseball]

I had a situation that ended the inning and now I'm wondering how to fix it without having to go back and inputting the entire game again pitch by pitch. The bases were loaded and the hitter lines a single down the third base line. One run scores and the runner from second attempts to score but is thrown out by the left fielder. How would i go back and add the run that scored but assign the out to the runner that was tagged? The out was assigned to the run that actually scored. HELP!!!

[OhioTex]

electronic scoring real time does take focus and practice and at times can be unforgiving, the beauty of the program being able to implement the interdependency of baseball rules also prevents it from being free form - changing anything at will. that is the trade off FTM has gone with in its programing. If you miss a play real time, the undo option is available to go back a few steps and redo. (not that hard in practice if caught - i know can be crazy). post game you can make non game changing edits in pitch by pitch (error to hit, substitutions, but not an out to non out, or run not scored to scored. that is the way the program is built). but you can over ride stats, change add a run to a players total, but can not make game changing plays in the play by play editor or the scorecard.

FTM continues to evolve their program and has been able to enhance editing, but i do not foresee anytime soon , unlimited changes. just beyond the scope of the ten dollar apps limits and processor power is my guess.

[skip314]

This should probably be posted in the Feature Request forum. Being able to go back and easily edit a play during a game would be a HUGE improvement to iScore. This is the one thing that paper scoring has over iScore. It happens to me about once every 10 games or so. Something will happen that I don't get word of and it's too late to undo back to the spot. I usually just skip a batter and go back and try to fix it after the game. I've had the other team pull players in the middle of a game and I don't notice until 3-4 batters later. Or sometimes they will give me the incorrect lineup and I don't notice until too late. Last game we had a player get injured so he couldn't bat when it was his turn. Halfway through the inning we find out that he was called out but I didn't score it that way. On a paper book, it takes 2 seconds to fix such a mistake.

[XJasper]

I couldn't agree more with your post. I understand not being able to edit a game after it ends but during youth games so many things are going on that you miss things at times. I have to keep a paper book right now because iScore will not allow for true in game edits.

[danmcc]

After using iScore for baseball and basketball I could not be dragged back to a paper book with wild horses dragging me. The positive trade offs for using iScore vs a paper book are many, spray charts, team stats, player stats, self populating website, cumulative stats over multiple seasons, etc. and it is all being done for me from my electronic scoring. I have no interest in going back to excel spreadsheets for stating.

I don't understand the fixation for some to have carte blanc editing for scorer mistakes. In the short run the mistakes can be resolved via stat editing, in the long run with experience there are less mistakes made to worry about. Youth baseball is an imperfect world and a few issues in scoring can be overlooked or stat edited. High School, college, minor and MLB are a different story (due to potential scholarships and money involved) but the games played have less anomalies and unique scoring situations to be concerned with compared to youth ball.

[titanbaseball]

I agree with the idea that danmcc is making. Being a high school program though, we have managers in our dugouts that help keep track of the games so we are able to focus more on the game. Youth baseball is one thing but having the ability to just edit a few mistakes made by the high school students themselves is a different story. We are able to go back and edit stats but short of inputting the game a full second time those scores are going to be skewed. There is no sense in making a mountain out of a mole hill but i just think that this would be nice to have that ability. But will i keep both a paper and the iPad version? Yes hands down because they are just valuable to have next to each other.

[danmcc]

Good point Titanbaseball, I had not considered that HS players would be scoring but makes perfect sense.

[skip314]

I don't understand the fixation for some to have carte blanc editing for scorer mistakes

I'm sure some detractors said that when the eraser was invented. Why do you think there are at least two scorers for any meaningful game? Scoring mistakes will happen to even the most experienced scorer and iScore should be able to handle this on the fly.

The thing is, this app has the ability to fix mistakes--you just have to jump too many hurdles to get it done during the game. We're not asking for a complete rewrite--we're asking for a feature that is already coded in to be available during the game.

[danmcc]

I may be in the minority however the undo, then rescore the mistake at the time of the mistake in game has worked for me.