Incorrect reporting of games played for a batter in v3.40.

[juphoff]

I just tried removing the no-show batter from the starting lineup, and it correctly remove credit for a game played for this game.

It also got the scoresheet *mostly* correct: it removed him and his row from his position in the order (he was the last batter in this case). It did, however, leave the words SKIP in place on the scoresheet where he was located for the innings he was skipped, causing those SKIPs to show up as overstrikes on the R/H & K/BB summary lines for each inning.

I'm betting you can reproduce this easily by importing the data I already have on the server for this game and then removing the #10 batter from the home team's order. I'll email customer ID & game date to your support address. (Note: I'd rather not export this change yet, given that the export will make it permanent. It should be trivial for you to reproduce it with what I've already exported.)

[juphoff]

Also, if you remove the no-show players at positions 11 and 12 in the visiting-team Braves' batting order, you'll see the same thing: the R/H & K/BB inning-summary lines will be overstruck with SKIPs where player 11 was previously slotted, and two more SKIP overstrikes for player 12 will be "floating" below the summary lines.

[Danger]

Ok, call me crazy, but I'm not getting the games played per player to correct itself by doing a Recalc on the game in question and then exporting, per my prior post. When I look at the stats on my iPod, it has 1 game played for each girl for the game in question. However, looking on my website, for that tournament, it still shows 5 girls with 8 games played and 5 girls with 7 games played.

In doing the Recalc, I also created another problem and discovered an issue. The afore-mentioned game was a one-inning tie-breaker in which each team starts with a runner on 2nd base. If that girl scores, I never count that as an Earned Run since the pitcher was not responsible for placing the runner there. However, iScore does count it as an earned run. I had previously overwritten the stats and changed it to 0 earned runs for that game. However, when I did the Recalc, iScore changed it back to 1 earned run. Now, iScore is not allowing me to edit any stats. I tried it on another game from this past weekend and I can't edit any PITCHING stats. I can still edit batting stats. Just not pitching.

[FTMSupport]

For the games played calculation, that is correct, the Team Website (assuming that is what your are talking about when you say looking on my website) does not yet account for this new calculation. Only the device does, and the emails it sends out.

For the tie breaker, we do not count a runner put on base using the Misc->Tie Breaker functionality as an earned run. We may have in an old version, but the current version is not doing that, so a Recalc will calculate the earned runs properly. We just confirmed this by placing a runner on second as a tie breaker, having the batter hit a single to drive the run in, and the run is not counted as Earned. Then did a home run with the next batter, and the pitcher was charged two earned runs (which is correct... all runs other than the courtesy runner would count as earned).

We also just verified that we can edit the ER and R stats for a pitcher post game. You can not edit calculated fields (ERA, WHIP, BAA, etc), but any fields that are just "counters" of what occurred can be edited.

If this is not working for you, please do an Options -> Export, and email us your Customer ID and let us know which game and stat you are trying to override so we can take a look at the data.

[Danger]

Ok, I've narrowed down the two issues:

1) Earned run... Here's what happened. The Tie-Breaker runner was placed on 2nd. We intentionally walked the leadoff hitter, setting up a force. Next batter did, indeed, ground into a force, with the tie-breaker runner being forced out at 3rd. The leadoff hitter later scored (which I also think should not be earned because she would never have been on if the tie-breaker runner had not started on base). That's why it assigned an earned run.

2) The editing stats function is ONLY allowing stats to be edited when the column # matches the row #. For example, the headers (column #) are G (1), PA (2), AB (3), R (4), H (5), etc.

• As it should be, I can edit nothing in column 1

• Whenever I try to edit column 2 - PA - for ANY batter, it automatically takes me ONLY to the 2nd row. So for column 2, I can only edit batter #2.

• For AB - column #3 - I can ONLY edit hitter #3. For R - column #4 - I can ONLY edit hitter #4. And so on.

• That's why I can't edit the ER for my pitcher. I only had one pitcher and ER is not column #1.

Does that make sense?

2nd Generation iPod Touch, iOS 4.2.1
iScore 3.41

[Danger]

One added note, if it helps: I checked on my buddy's iPod Touch with iScore version 3.16 and the edit features are working correctly on that version.

[juphoff]

Out of curiosity, has anyone there taken a look yet at the SKIP overstrikes on the scorebook pages that appear when a no-show player is removed from the batting order after the game (in order to prevent credit for a game played)? I sent info. to the support address.

[FTMSupport]

@Danger -

For #1 - It sounds like iScore did things correctly for the earned runs with the Tie Breaker. An intentional walk is still an earned run. It does not matter if there is a baserunner prior to that runner that would not be earned.

For #2 - you have identified another issue with the iOS SDK 5 compiler. We will get this fixed ASAP. We have had several issues pop up with Apple's latest compiler, and only on iOS 4.2.1. The "hit location" issue, the "preset fielder positioning", and one or two others were all a result of some "optimization" Apple added to their compiler with the latest release.


@juphoff - Yes, we will be having an update to make it so if the last player in a lineup is removed, and all that was ever scored for him was "SKIP", then that row of data will be removed from the scorecard.

[juphoff]

Great--thank you! (I'm guessing this change will only address when the case is one or more players at the end of the lineup? Or will players in the middle of the lineup who were also skipped the entire game also be removeable?)

[FTMSupport]

Only players at the end of the lineup. If you delete a player from the middle, all other players shift up, and it is definitely not what you are wanting to do.