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brian_oshea
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Putouts

Post by brian_oshea » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:14 am

Our team name is Scarborough Stingrays. Last weekend we played Napanee in a 7 inning game. I don't usually look at the fielding stats, as the coach never tells me of substitutions. However he does pre-assign the defensive positions and I suddenly realized that I could enter the positions before the game and then the fielding statistics would mean something.

However, in looking at the fielding figures for the Napanee game on July 16 it shows 22 PO for a 7 inning game. How is this possible?
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Re: Putouts

Post by brian_oshea » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:40 am

Could this have happened because I had 2players at the same position in the pre-assignment and therefore both got a PO on the same play? In reading the score card I am confused as to who played a designated position in a given inning. If say a player was assigned position 3 in the 1st inning and the lineup shows no other position for her does that mean she played that position the whole game? In the pre-assignment of players do I have to put an out in say inning 2 if she is no longer playing that position for only that inning or can I just leave the square blank?

Hope this helps to explain my 22 PO in a 7 inning game.
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Re: Putouts

Post by OhioTex » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:53 am

Two topics here...

1) PO not equal to innings x 3.
I suspect most all your games are as expected, ie 7 innings 21 put outs or 6 innings 18 put outs. (catcher gets put out on strike outs)/ . without seeing your data to hard to determine the source of the discrepancy. (why 22 not 21 PO). but i doubt it is due to the propositioning. I suspect it is do to data entry, if you want to dive in and find the specific place, use undo and redo on your game to find the source of the discrepancy.

my first guess would be do you have any batter hits a "fielders choice" safe, but both batter and all base runners safe due to fielding error or other. i believe iscore scores the put out and assist in this scenario and i am not sure if that is correct. if you have a fielders choice play that is safe and causing the additional put out (and perhaps assist) you can go into pitch by pitch editor and on that play. note the issue or redo the fielders choice play and when it asks who involved, hit next (ie no fielders) and the PO (and assist) will go away

FTM -Potential bug. examples.. runner on 3rd inly, no outs, (could be any base not forced) , batter hits a fielders choice to pitcher, who holds (or throws) the ball to keep runner at third. I would score it a fielders choice, touch players P, Runner at third safe ). batter safe at first . Stats give a put out to pitcher though no out recorded. .similar say runner went home, pitcher threw to catcher, but runner safe (either by skill or error). , put out to catcher and assist given to pitcher (and error to catcher if you want). this does not seem correct? .

2 pre positioning
if two players in line up assigned the same position, say SS. the one listed first in the batting order is assumed to be in that position and the second is assumed out. In the pre positioning grid, blank and out are the same thing. out. when you enter a player in a position, in inning one, the prepositioning grid assumes they are in that slot till some one else assigned it.
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Re: Putouts

Post by FTMSupport » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:10 pm

We will look into this OhioTex... thank you.
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Re: Putouts

Post by brian_oshea » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:51 pm

I believe that I did score a fielders choice but ther was no out. Runner was on second, batter hit a ground ball to second, second baseman threw to third to get the runner that was on second but the runner was safe. I scored it as a fielders choice, batter would have been out at first easily, but there was no out. Thanks for the explanation

Thanks also for explanation on preset lineups. I was doing it correct. Your first point explained the run difference.
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Re: Putouts

Post by FTMSupport » Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:09 pm

The Fielder's Choice screen asks who is involved in making an OUT. If the play is "Fielders Choice, Safe", then when it asks who was involved in the OUT, just press Next (nobody was involved in an OUT).
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Re: Putouts

Post by brian_oshea » Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:22 pm

Some things are so obvious that you cannot see them. Thanks!!!!
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