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Background: During the first several games of our season we did not have access to player rosters for the teams were were playing. I therefore created a quick roster for our opponents at the time of the game. We did have a detailed roster of our own team and have scored about 5 games. Another coach and myself take turns scoring the games and make sure that our data is in sync using "Data Sharing" "Get from Web Database" feature.

We recently got detailed rosters for our competitors. The data was entered on Ipad A. When I updated Ipad B via data sharing, it noted that there were new teams "available" and copied them over. When I went to the field last night to score the game, I looked at the lineup of the team we were playing and it still had my "quick roster" names, not the detailed ones I thought I had "downloaded" from Ipad A.

I have read other threads and recognize that you intentially keep players, teams and rosters separate but allow a capability to "map" from "Player A" on one database to "Player 1" on the other device. I am NOT concerned about losing any data that was captured in Quick Roster from our previous games, but I would like to start seeing the player names and numbers that were entered correctly on Ipad A on Ipad B. For the teams that I did not already have a "quick roster" defined, it appears that I do see the correct lineups on both Ipad A and Ipad B.

Can you detail the steps I need to perform to see the roster details on Ipad B? Again, I am not worried about losing player data/stats from the quick roster, but want to make sure I don't lose game stats for our team.

Thanks

Jon

One solve, if it is all square on iPad a.

Delete the game, team, and players on iPad b. And re data share over. iPad a to iPad b.

Here is a post from FTM That explains why the new spelling of the players names is not copied over if the player exists on the second device already . The device knows each player by a unique internal identifier not the human readable spelling.. So as long as the second device has the player or team on it already, their name spelling won't change.

FTMSupport wrote:Players and Teams are separate things. Players are only copied as part of data sharing when they do not exist on a device. If a player already exists on a device, it is not copied over again. This is actually intentional. We also do not modify the names for existing players --- this is also intentional. If I am data sharing with you, and I like all my players to just be "First Initial" and "Last Name", I don't want the fact that you use "First name" "Last Initial" to overwrite my version of the players.

If you want to edit player names for players that have already been data shared, you would need to do it on both devices.

Thanks OhioTex

Here is potentially an new wrinkle... will it matter that Ipad B is what I use to upload and sync to the team website?

When you transfer data from another device, if you "map" it to existing teams/players, the team/player names on the device you are transferring to will remain, and just a "cross reference" is created internally so the system knows that "Player A" on the source device is the equivalent of "Player ABC" on the second.

If you don't do the mapping, and just import as new data, you could use the "Merge" capabilities for both the Team and Players to make them take on the new names.

Once players are mapped, there is no "unmapping" however.

thanks ftm,

Here is an update. On ipad B, I deleted the two team and players where I had used "quick roster" prior to the detailed roster being available. Through datashare with ipad A, I saw both teams (and players) are now marked as new. When I did an import, one of the teams and players came through cleanly. The other team does not show up nor are the players listed in player manager. I tried importing them a couple of times and each time iScore thinks the "missing team" is new and the players are new. I check and I do have all leagues turned on.

Any suggestions on what to try next?

Couple of things:

1. Are both iPads running the latest version of iScore (v3.09)?

2. After deleting data on iPad B, try doing Options->Export on iPad B, log in to the Admin Website, and run Optimize on the Tuneup tab for that device, then Options->Import to bring the data back.

Thanks. I don't know what version iPad A is running. Ipad B is on v3.09.141

I tried the steps listed in 2 and it still does not work. I did notice that although all the players for the missing team show up as new on the data share mapping screen, the team itself is showing mapped to a team (same name) but is not listed in my team manager (and yes, I do have all leagues being displayed)

Yes it will matter. Sorry I did not get back to post sooner..

Shame on me.. I should have warned, do not delete a team If it is the "team site team" I assumed only deleting opponent teams...

photojon wrote:Thanks OhioTex

Here is potentially an new wrinkle... will it matter that Ipad B is what I use to upload and sync to the team website?

FTMSupport wrote:
Once players are mapped, there is no "unmapping" however.

Ah! I did not know this... Bad moderator!!!

Is This because even after the human readable player is deleted on secondary device, the device remembers their unique identifier? Same with teams, deleting human readable but retaining unique identifier in the program?