Programatic Defect in Earned Run?

[shebs99]

Done! Thanks for your help.

scott

[bloynoys]

Okay I am having problems with this too. My pitcher was charged with 6 earned (out of 8). I can't figure out in pitch by pitch to see which ones were earned but I'll give you the innings where people scored questionably.

Bottom 2:
#8 single
#8 to second on wild pitch
#11 grounds out to deep second, #8 scores, guy was moving on the pitch so he was able to score on this ground out, but if the wild pitch doesn't happen he isn't in position to score.
#12 is walked
#9 singles.
# 6 grounds into double play.

Is this earned because if the guy hadn't gone to second he still would have scored just later inthe inning? I thought a run had to be classified as earned or unearned when he scores not retroactively after what happens later?

I have another question, Iscore seems to say that a guy will automatically score from second on a single, so if there is a passedball to get him from second to third and then a single to score him, it still is earned.

Bottom 4:

#11 singles
#11 steals second,
#12 grounds out, #9 stays put
#9 singles #11 scores, #9 advances to second on error
#6 singles, #9 scores
#10 grounds out, #6 goes to second
#1 grounds out

Bottom 6
#9 reaches to second on error by left fielder
#6 singles, #9 scores, #6 advances on throw
#10 strikes out
#1 grounds out, #6 advances
#6 scores on throwing error by catcher
#14 strikes out

The pitcher was charged with 6ER, is it something I did wrong?

[CoachJoe]

For the answer to your question relating to in bottom of the second. A wild pitch is not considered an error in dertermining earnded runs

OBR 10.16 (a) The official scorer shall charge an earned run against a pitcher every time a runner reaches home base by the aid of safe hits, sacrifice bunts, a sacrifice fly, stolen bases, putouts, fielder’s choices, bases on balls, hit batters, balks or wild pitches (including a wild pitch on third strike that permits a batter to reach first base) before fielding chances have been offered to put out the offensive team. For the purpose of this rule, a defensive interference penalty shall be construed as a fielding chance. A wild pitch is solely the pitcher’s fault and shall contribute to an earned run just as a base on balls or a balk.

With repect to the advance by passed ball.
OBR 10.16 (d) No run shall be earned when the scoring runner’s advance has been aided by an error, a passed ball or defensive interference or obstruction, if in the official scorer’s judgment the run would not have scored without the aid of such misplay.

This appears to be a judgement call by the scorer whether the single would have scored him from second.

I will look at the 4th & 6th and see what I come up with.

[FTMSupport]

4th inning would be considered earned by iScore. Any time there is a base hit after an error that advances a runner, the run is treated as earned. (NOTE: A batter reaching by error can never be earned, but a runner advancing by error can still be earned based on subsequent action.) iScore currently assumes a base hit would score the runner. There are cases where this would be a judgment call, but since iScore does not currently have a way to enter "judgment calls", we do our best guess. We will be adding the ability to override earned vs unearned in an upcoming release for the case of judgment cals.

6th inning would be considered unearned by iScore. Since there was not base hit after the error that advanced the runner, it is safe to say the runner would not have scored without the error.