I entered a sacrifice bunt, but must not have put Out. When it asked what happened to the batter, I put forced out. It scored as a safe bunt, and then tagged out. So it shows the batter as 1-1, and then an out.
How do I
1. Correct? So the batter has a sacrifice bunt, is not scored with an at bat.
2. score correctly next time?
Sacrifice Bunt - correct input error
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FTMSupport
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Re: Sacrifice Bunt - correct input error
To actually put in "Sac Bunt Safe", you would actually have to go to the More... options. Is that what you did?
The correct way to score would have been to touch "Out", then touch "Sacrifice Bunt".
You can only make edits that wind up with the same end result, so the closest you are likely going to be able to come would be to edit it to "Sac Bunt with Error" (also on the More... choices). This will still credit the batter with a sacrifice (not a hit), so your batting stats will be right. The only thing that would be off is the errors for the defensive player. You can add a note to the play as well just so you remember what took place.
The correct way to score would have been to touch "Out", then touch "Sacrifice Bunt".
You can only make edits that wind up with the same end result, so the closest you are likely going to be able to come would be to edit it to "Sac Bunt with Error" (also on the More... choices). This will still credit the batter with a sacrifice (not a hit), so your batting stats will be right. The only thing that would be off is the errors for the defensive player. You can add a note to the play as well just so you remember what took place.
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Re: Sacrifice Bunt - correct input error
Doesn't the term sacrifice, imply the batter-runner was out? If the batter-runner was safe, then wouldn't it just be a Bunt with RBI? Maybe I'm confused as to the situation.
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Re: Sacrifice Bunt - correct input error
Not necessarily. In the case where a sacrifice attempt is made, but the defense chooses to try and throw to second base, but the runner is safe and with ordinary effort the batter would have been out at first had they tried for it, the batter is still credited with a sacrifice bunt, not a Fielders Choice and not an Error. He does not get a single either. ( MLB 10.08(b) )
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Re: Sacrifice Bunt - correct input error
This language confuses me...
10.08b: "Score a sacrifice bunt when, before two are out, the fielders handle a bunted ball without error in an unsuccessful attempt to put out a preceding runner advancing one base"
Ok, I get that....
"unless, an attempt to turn a bunt into a putout of a preceding runner fails, and in the judgment of the official scorer ordinary effort would not have put out the batter at first base, in which case the batter shall be credited with a one-base hit and not a sacrifice"
This is the part that confuses me.
Say runners on 1st and second, one out. Left handed batter bunted ball down third baseline in drag bunt fashion. Third baseman playing behind/even with bag. On Bunt the runner at second was moving. Pitcher picked up the ball midway down the line and throws to third. Runner is safe. Now the question in the rule is could the pitcher have thrown the batter-runner out in the first place. If in the judgement of the scorer the answer is no then the batter would have received a basehit not a sacrifice, right?
10.08b: "Score a sacrifice bunt when, before two are out, the fielders handle a bunted ball without error in an unsuccessful attempt to put out a preceding runner advancing one base"
Ok, I get that....
"unless, an attempt to turn a bunt into a putout of a preceding runner fails, and in the judgment of the official scorer ordinary effort would not have put out the batter at first base, in which case the batter shall be credited with a one-base hit and not a sacrifice"
This is the part that confuses me.
Say runners on 1st and second, one out. Left handed batter bunted ball down third baseline in drag bunt fashion. Third baseman playing behind/even with bag. On Bunt the runner at second was moving. Pitcher picked up the ball midway down the line and throws to third. Runner is safe. Now the question in the rule is could the pitcher have thrown the batter-runner out in the first place. If in the judgement of the scorer the answer is no then the batter would have received a basehit not a sacrifice, right?
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Re: Sacrifice Bunt - correct input error
Yes if the scorer believes the pitcher could not have thrown out the batter with reasonable effort then the scorer would select Safe Hit Single. Otherwise the scorer would select Safe Sac Bunt