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Run scored correction

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:08 am
by brian_oshea
In the gold medal game at the Eastern Canadian Midget Championship (which we won), we had a runner on 1st and the batter hit a double. The runner on first scored, and the batter stopped at second. However I failed to notice that iScore only advanced the first base runner to 3rd and the inning ended before I noticed that I had not scored the run. No problem I said, I'll correct in in the pitch by pitch.

However, the pitch by pitch would not allow me to move the runner that it had on 3rd to home. This change would only have affected the score, and not the # of outs or batting order. Why would it not allow me to make this change?

Re: Run scored correction

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:17 am
by danmcc
The score is a game changing event such as outs. iScore currently does not allow game changing edits such as runs. Your option is to manually change stats in that game for the stat columns effected.

Re: Run scored correction

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:51 pm
by tssharkbait
I needed to make a similar correction as you and also found that I was unable to do so. Suggest those at IScorebaseball add a correction feature that would allow a "RUN SCORED CORRECTION."

Re: Run scored correction

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:11 am
by brian_oshea
I am afraid I must disagree with iScore's inability to make the correction described in the original post. I agree that it can be game changing, I.e. a loss to a win, a win to a loss, or a tie to a win or loss. However this correction has no affect on any subsequent plays in the game. It does not make an out safe, or safe an out, it merely corrects the score.

In the situation described above, the 50+ people following the ScoreCast believed that we were losing 1-0, when in fact the game was tied, a very big difference especially in the gold medal game. It is very important that the score of the game is correct!

Maybe I am missing something, but I fail to see how this change would affect other plays and thus cannot be made. If this is a once off change, why cannot it be made?

Re: Run scored correction

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:24 am
by FTMSupport
There are several potential issues with allowing you to do a post game edit that moves a base runner to another base. It is obvious to you that it is not game changing because you scored the game. But what if 4 plays later, you had marked that runner as being tagged out at home? Then you edit him to score instead? Now things are in a very awkward state. Or what if the game ended tied so iScore took you into extra innings, but now you add a run for one team in the middle of the game and the extra innings should not have occurred? These are just a couple examples of the things iScore would have to deal with if "any" change was allowed to be made.

We have been allowing more and more changes to be made post game when we can clearly identify there are not ripple effects later in the game, but determining that is not always as easy as it may seem.

Re: Run scored correction

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:07 am
by brian_oshea
I guess the lesson is, do it right the first time!! :lol:

Re: Run scored correction

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:37 am
by OhioTex
the other harsh reality is great scoring takes detailed accuracy, attention, and focus.. It can be hard to catch it all accurately and not get caught up in the emotion of the game and the well intending distractions (what score is it, what happened last inning etc). I hate to say it, but sometimes i hide and/am somewhat a recluse when scoring, especially when I know others "watching" remotely. I then try to be even more diligent than normal in monitoring what i score, getting it right the first time and using undo, and correct as I go. I am afraid that is just the reality of "real time" transmissions, less room for error.

Re: Run scored correction

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:12 am
by brian_oshea
What would you do if after 7 innings iScore showed the game as 1-0 and ended it when it should have been 1-1 and should proceed to a tie breaker? There must be some place that you can correct the score without causing other problems?

At any rate this is a possible problem for next year. Our season was over with the gold at Nationals. That does not mean that I won't follow the posts on the forum. I find them VERY interesting.

Re: Run scored correction

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:50 am
by OhioTex
A workaround could be At 1-0, ended. ... Hit undo, go to options gear icon, and change innings plus one, now hit misc tie breaker to start the California tie breaker.

After game go back and set inning to right number for era calculation.

Re: Run scored correction

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:09 am
by brian_oshea
Seems like a lot of work to correct 1 error, be it a major one and if the game goes to 9 innings (as a game at last weekend Nationals did) you have to do it all over again. Surely
somebody smarter than me can come up with a easier solution.