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Sac Bunt Error
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:14 pm
by bepeacock
Watching the Rangers game tonight and in the 9th, Mitch Moreland bunted with a runner on 1st. It went to the pitcher, whose throw was off, pulling the first baseman off the bag. This is an error. The commentator said, "for those scoring at home, that is a sec bunt with an E1 allowing the batter to reach 1st.". How do I enter that? Don't see a way to say both sac bunt and error when he just gets to first.
Re: Sac Bunt Error
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:54 pm
by danmcc
I've never looked for it before but when I hit in play there is a Sac Bunt with Error button on the right side, second from bottom.
Re: Sac Bunt Error
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:31 am
by OhioTex
On an iPad, it is the second from bottom button in right column...(like dan said)...
But FYI on phone device, the sac bunt with error and sac fly with error button are on second page of in play buttons (access by "more..." button bottom right, on page 1)
P.s. Go rangers!
Re: Sac Bunt Error
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:10 pm
by bepeacock
Well I feel completely stupid now. Open your eyes, Peacock. gah! Thanks guys. :
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Re: Sac Bunt Error
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:34 am
by OhioTex
don't feel bad, it is an odd need and easily overlooked.. especially in the chaos of the moment, particularly on error plays
Re: Sac Bunt Error
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:28 pm
by brian_oshea
This question brings up another question. An error for a batter reaching base counts as an at bat for him, he is 0-1. However a sac. bunt is not an official AB, he is 0-0. How does iScore, score the error on a sac. bunt or fly?
Re: Sac Bunt Error
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:44 pm
by OhioTex
On a sac bunt (or sac fly) iscore records a plate appearance but not an offical at bat.
Same with sac w/ error. , a plate apperence but not an official at bat..
Oddly (but correctly) it does not record it as a reach on error.
Re: Sac Bunt Error
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:57 pm
by brian_oshea
Thanks!!! Was just wondering. It's nice to know the answer in advance of it happening.
Re: Sac Bunt Error
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:11 pm
by FTMSupport
It does not count as a Reach on Error because the batter is still credited with a Sacrifice, and if we gave both a Sacrifice + Reach on Error, it would skew statistics. In this case the "Sacrifice" is "worth more" than a Reach on Error. In order to have a Reach on Error, you need to be charged an At Bat as well or several calculated stats will not work out.
Re: Sac Bunt Error
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:52 pm
by brian_oshea
I think that I would agree that your treatment of this play is correct. I agree that the sacrifice is better for the batter and he should thus receive the most favorable treatment, but let's hope it doesn't happen to often so I don't have to try and explain the treatment to the coach & parents.
Thanks to everyone for their help in answering this perplexing question.
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