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In this weekend's state softball tournament, our 12U girls had a tough draw. In the first game we played another district champion (we won our district also) and it was a dragged out battle.

I'm having a hard time explaining to the pitcher's dad how the scoring worked out against his daughter and I wanted to see how you would explain it.

3rd inning, girl on 3rd (got on with a double, then wild pitch to 3rd) and 1st (girls walked).

Substitution - pitcher change.

Runner on 1st goes to 2nd on defensive indifference (ball).

After 2 strikes, the new pitcher throws a wild pitch and the runner on 3rd scores (and I clicked that sequence in iScore). Run counts against first pitcher, not substitute pitcher.

Runner on 2nd goes to 3rd on the play.

Batter makes it to first on an error by 3rd base, runner on 3rd scores. This I know I made a mistake - I clicked on "Advanced by Runner" instead of clicking on "Error" again. So this one I have corrected.

How would you explain the first run score and counting against the first pitcher?

Thanks in advance.

Any runners on base when a pitcher leaves the game are still the responsibility of that pitcher. Runs scored on wild pitches are earned runs just like any other earned run. A pitcher can't get off the hook for earned runs by throwing wild pitches.

As another example, if the first pitcher leaves the game with bases loaded, a second pitcher comes in, and on the first pitch gives up a home run, the first pitcher is charged with 3 earned runs against them, and the second is charged with 1 earned run.

So if the confusion is over why the first pitcher is being charged with the runs and not the second, it is because the first pitcher put the runners on base.

If the confusion is why the run is earned on a wild pitch, it is because runs scored on wild pitches are still earned runs.

Rix-

agree with FTM points, (the pitchers dad should be well aware that base on balls, wild pitches are "on the pitcher" as are runners on base when the relief pitcher comes in). but Rix, you omitted the outs situation, and what happened next, after the runner who scored from third on the error, depending on the out situation and next batters, that run may be earned or unearned. would have to replay the inning without the errors to determine what it should be. may be even worse than pitcher dad wants to know.

Wow - thanks for the quick reply guys.

I had the first one figured out pretty well. But the second score is where I messed up and wanted to get your feedback.

To go back to how she got on base (see above) she was walked by original pitcher. There were no outs and the pitcher had already given up a single and a double (that scored the 1st batter) before she gave up that Walk. No outs.

Substitution - new pitcher.

Runner goes to 2nd on defensive indifference (runner on 3rd so don't want to give up the score - I know - I've read the discussion on this but score it as DI since I want to stay consistent).

Wild pitch scores the runner at 3rd, runner at 2nd moves to 3rd.

Next batter hits a hard grounder to 3rd who bobbles it and makes a late throw to 1st. Error scored on 3rd base. Runner at 3rd scores on the throw. I clicked on "Advanced by Batter". I should have clicked on Error again correct?

Once I changed it to this, it did take out the one additional Earned run for the first pitcher. How would you have scored it?

Thanks again both of you for your help. I enjoy reading all your posts.

imho, the runner at third (that originally got on base by walk, then second by wild pitch) can still be earned, since we are less than two outs.. what happens next matters .. . if subsequent batter gets a hit that would have scored runner, earned (assigned to original pitcher that walked the batter) even though the reliever gives up the score that scores the runner,

also the hard grounder to 3rd bobble, could be scored a fielders choice (not there to say..)

Next batter hits a hard grounder to 3rd who bobbles it and makes a late throw to 1st. Error scored on 3rd base. Runner at 3rd scores on the throw. I clicked on "Advanced by Batter". I should have clicked on Error again correct?