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Runner on third 2 outs batter hits grounded down the line. First baseman tags runner not bag for third out. Runner from third scores before tag important rules run counts because play was not a force due to tag. Right call or not?

The run does not count per the following. Note the exception. (MLB rules)

4.09 HOW A TEAM SCORES.
(a) One run shall be scored each time a runner legally advances to and touches first,
second, third and home base before three men are put out to end the inning.
EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a
play in which the third out is made (1) by the batter-runner before he touches first
base; (2) by any runner being forced out; or (3) by a preceding runner who is
declared out because he failed to touch one of the bases.

@coach1. Is batter-runner tagged BEFORE or AFTER he touched first base?

Before but further research verifies it doesn't matter. It's still a force and run should not have counted. I believe its rule 4.09

it does matter, if runner was safe at first, it would become a timing play after that. ( per the rule team mom quoted above. and you referenced)

He wasn't safe at first. He was tagged out for the


ird out as he came down the line. I understand safe at first the run would count and play would continue

Perhaps I misunderstood, I thought you said it did not matter if he touched first, before or after the tag. will try again, if he touched first then got taggd out then a timing play, if (as you clarified) he got tagged before he touched first, then the run should not count.

I think we are on the sampe page

You are correct my doesn't matter comment was in reference to tagging the runner or the base to get the out. Guess my response was a little confusing. The runner never made it to first. The imo said the play wasn't a force after the tag and counted the run. Oh well we will get them I'm the losers bracket. Thanks for all the info

very bad/rookie call on the field.