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Opponent totals

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:18 pm
by bmclaurin
Would it be possible to add a row to the team stats page (perhaps at the bottom of each of the three sections---batting, fielding, pitching) to show the corresponding totals for the team's opponents? IMO, that would greatly enhance the information about my team by providing an appropriate context. For example, it's great to know that my team is batting .371 (just making that up), and that sounds like a great team BA. But when you realize that my team's opponents are batting, for example, .419 against us, it all of a sudden doesn't look so great. I realize the team stats are primarily a place to summarize the data specifically about one team, but IMO the team stats information is incomplete without the context of how that team's opponents have fared against them. I also realize that you can look at box scores for individual games, but that is only marginally helpful when you're trying to look at the team's cumulative performance for the season. And I also realize that you can compile that information yourself in Excel, but that takes a lot of work that seems unnecessary when iScore could do it automatically.

Not sure how others feel, but I humbly cast my vote (and submit my request) for this feature. thanks for considering.

Re: Opponent totals

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:56 pm
by FTMSupport
We will add this to our enhancement list and see if others request it as well. It is not likely something that we would put on the Team Website, but possibly could be a report you would run like the Team Stats report... it would be an Opponent Stats report from the team screen.

You can already do this game by game - the game stats reports can show both home and visitor teams. It seems to make a lot more sense to compare your team to another team for a game since it is a team to team comparison. If you treat all your opponents as one team, then suppose you faced one team that clobbered you guys ---- won the game 100-0 and had 100 hits. You then faced 10 opponents that you beat 1-0 and you hit 1 homerun each game and nothing else.

When you look at Your team vs "opponents", you have been outscored 100-10 over 11 games, and the "opponent" batting average is huge and yours is tiny. This would not be reflective of what really happened.

Another way to get this information would be to look at your pitchers "BAA" (Batting Average Against) stat. This tells how opponents are batting against your pitchers, and can be viewed across any subset of games (or all games) by using leagues.

Re: Opponent totals

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am
by bmclaurin
FTM, thanks for considering my request. Not sure I quite see your point about it not being reflective of what really happened, but that's OK. I suppose we can agree to disagree on that. Perhaps others would also find this information helpful. If so, I hope you actually roll it out soon. :mrgreen:

Maybe you could have it as an optional stat such that you would have to place a check mark next to it on the settings page in order for it to appear (just like we do for all the other stats). Just a thought...

Re: Opponent totals

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:49 am
by PetroGuy
The idea of an extra row showing the totals of all opponents is an intriguing idea. I really like it. I understand FTMs issue with the idea that the totals may not be indicative of the average of a particular stat, but that is true of all statistical analysis. That's just like saying player A is a better batter since he bats 1.000 than player B that bats 0.500 even though player A has batted in only one game and player B has batted in 100 games. You always have to judge the merits of a stat based on sample size and possible anomalies.

The reason I like this is that many stats are best viewed as related to other performances. These numbers could be used for a simple visual comparison or taken to Excel as the basis for something more advanced. For instance, in youth ball there is really no way to capture a league wide on base percentage. However, this would give you a larger sample of batters to get a better idea of an average on base percentage and thus judge a performance by members of your team better. It could be a fun addition.