Editing pitch-by-pitch
Editing pitch-by-pitch
I have a suspended game that I would like to go back and change a hit to an error. Runners were on 2nd & 3rd with 2 out. Ball hit through SS should have been called an error on SS but was scored as a double, scoring runner on 3rd and advancing runner on 2nd to 3rd. If I go back to that pitch to edit the only boxes available are "Hit double", "More", and "Cancel". "More does nothing. Why is "Error" not available?
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As mentioned in other parts of the forum, FTM by design, limits what edits can be made in pitch-by-pitch editor. The intent is to allow non game changing events to be edited (e.g. a substitution correction) but not allow game changing events to be edit (eg. change the score and many other things).
As reported elsewhere, a number of desired edits have been found to be restricted .. Sounds like you have one of those and why other options on that play are grayed out
about all i can suggest, short of re entering the game, is you can edit the notes to comment on the discrepancy and have to manually correct stats.
As reported elsewhere, a number of desired edits have been found to be restricted .. Sounds like you have one of those and why other options on that play are grayed out
about all i can suggest, short of re entering the game, is you can edit the notes to comment on the discrepancy and have to manually correct stats.
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As far as I can tell this IS a non game changing event. Runners still advanced where they do originally but I just want to change the hit to and error.
Re: Editing pitch-by-pitch
The definition of "game changing" events is not always as obvious as it seems at first glace due to follow on actions and ripple effects in baseball. FTM has taken a conservative approach in its coding to prevent 'ripple' effect problems. So for now, your specific situation seems to be caught in that condition (probably because of the run score on that play and being two outs) and nothing you can do to correct t at this time.
I am not saying your situation to change a hit to an error, should not qualify as a non changing event, just that currently you can not edit it (as you discovered).
In other posts , you will see this issue has been raised, including not only editing and assignment of errors, but editing and assignment of earned and un earned runs (which is very much related to errors). I believe it is on the list by FTM for consideration for future enhancements. Just no idea the priority. Since pitch by pitch editing came out, FTM has found other situations where they can ‘relax’ the editing restrictions and changed it in later releases, so all is not lost in the long term.. but for now, you are correct (right or wrong) today it is not an editable condition.
I am not saying your situation to change a hit to an error, should not qualify as a non changing event, just that currently you can not edit it (as you discovered).
In other posts , you will see this issue has been raised, including not only editing and assignment of errors, but editing and assignment of earned and un earned runs (which is very much related to errors). I believe it is on the list by FTM for consideration for future enhancements. Just no idea the priority. Since pitch by pitch editing came out, FTM has found other situations where they can ‘relax’ the editing restrictions and changed it in later releases, so all is not lost in the long term.. but for now, you are correct (right or wrong) today it is not an editable condition.
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Re: Editing pitch-by-pitch
The reason it can not be changed right now is that other than a double, getting to second requires 2 events. You would need to know how the runner got to first (error), and how he got to second (error --- could the same same error, but it is still a second "event").
We are working on what can be edited, and a future release will allow much more flexibility in this regard.
We are working on what can be edited, and a future release will allow much more flexibility in this regard.
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I had the similiar situation. My scorekeeper recorded a hit to RCF as a double when it was truly a single, but the batter advanced to second on the throw to home plate. Couldn't change that, double was the only thing available. I could have adjusted the whole game, but since this was the only error, I just chose to leave it (we're 11U, stats aren't THAT significant 
) and wrote in the notes On the throw.
) and wrote in the notes On the throw.Re: Editing pitch-by-pitch
We had another situation where the scorekeeper put down bunt because the batter bunted, but he was thrown out at first. The pitch by pitch reads, "Bunt to reach first safely and then player forced out at first. This adds a stat for a hit against the pitcher when it really wasn't. It was still an out, didn't affect the game, but I can't change the way the out was made. I hate to re-input the whole game just for this one error!
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Re: Editing pitch-by-pitch
This means that for the bunt, instead of marking Out, First, Bunt, you marked Safe, First, Bunt, then marked the Runner out. If it had been marked as Bunt, Out instead of Bunt, Safe, then it would be correct.
To edit the stats now, you can change the reason for being safe at first to Fielders Choice in the Pitch by Pitch, and this way the batter will not be getting credit for a hit, and the pitcher will not have a hit marked against him (thus, stats will be correct without having to re-input the game). You can also add a note indicating what really took place on the play.
To edit the stats now, you can change the reason for being safe at first to Fielders Choice in the Pitch by Pitch, and this way the batter will not be getting credit for a hit, and the pitcher will not have a hit marked against him (thus, stats will be correct without having to re-input the game). You can also add a note indicating what really took place on the play.
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Re: Editing pitch-by-pitch
This means that for the bunt, instead of marking Out, First, Bunt, you marked Safe, First, Bunt, then marked the Runner out. If it had been marked as Bunt, Out instead of Bunt, Safe, then it would be correct.
To edit the stats now, you can change the reason for being safe at first to Fielders Choice in the Pitch by Pitch, and this way the batter will not be getting credit for a hit, and the pitcher will not have a hit marked against him (thus, stats will be correct without having to re-input the game). You can also add a note indicating what really took place on the play.
To edit the stats now, you can change the reason for being safe at first to Fielders Choice in the Pitch by Pitch, and this way the batter will not be getting credit for a hit, and the pitcher will not have a hit marked against him (thus, stats will be correct without having to re-input the game). You can also add a note indicating what really took place on the play.