Ball out of play

[Bryan D Shepherd]

Here's a play for everyone that happened to me last night:

Runner on first, no outs. Batter hits a ground ball to the shortstop who throws the ball over the first baseman's head and the ball goes out of play. What's the scoring and where does everyone end up?

[OhioTex]

I assume the runners at the time of the throw, On the way to second and on the way to first.. and the aware is base plus one from time of throw right?

so 3rd and second.

I assume the shortstop would have been able to make a play at second or first, so batter reach on error E6, and advances to 2nd on the throw, ball out of play. likewise for runner going first to third?

no hit. error to shortstop.

[OhioTex]

Ump Bryan.. what was the right call and score?

[Bryan D Shepherd]

That is correct. The right call is runners should be on second and third, although, the rules says two bases awarded. You were correct in saying that it's two bases from the time of the throw. The error is on the shortstop.

[OhioTex]

yeah, i got one right !

[Bryan D Shepherd]

I could give you a hard one if you like =)

[don.english]

How does the iScore scorebook look for your entry? When entered this way does it show the runner on first moved to second by ABx? And then what does it show on 2nd to 3rd?

[Bryan D Shepherd]

Both of them should be moved by Ball Out of Play. The batter will get first on E6.

[CoachJoe]

Although the results end up being the same, technically, since this would be considered the first play after the pitch by an infielder and all runners did not advance a base prior to the throw the runners would be entiled to two bases at the time the ball was pitched and not the time of the throw. Rule 7.05(g)

[OhioTex]

i do not have time to resarch this now,, but i will be curious.. I thought this was a two base award from throw, not pitch.. Looking forward to discussing.. gotta run..